At just 24, Gracie Abrams has carved out a name in indie-pop over a five-year career, collaborating with artists like Taylor Swift. With her album The Secret of Us, she dropped by Asia for a concert tour, and we caught up with her for a chat.

Oh, my God. Well, just that it’s been such a crazy privilege to be in this part of the world. I’ve never been over here before, and I’m so moved by the energy that we’ve been able to absorb from the fans in these rooms at these concerts. It’s pretty unbelievable to me, and hard to wrap my head around the fact that anybody here knows that I exist. Their support and their love, but it’s really…it’s just all them and so crazy that that’s a real stat. I’m very honored to be next to Jenny and Ariana, who I look up to very much.
One of the things I valued the most about getting to do this over the past five years is anytime I get to find myself in the same room as artists who I respect. I’d say like with the Grammys as well, being in the same room as all of the people there, getting to watch artists who’ve dedicated their lives to their craft. I would say that my creative process, the evolution of that over the past five years, has excited me very much. I would put that on the list. I would say that, like in the past five years, I’ve met people that I didn’t know prior that have become people that I would consider forever friends for the rest of my life. And I think as you step into yourself, it’s really thrilling to meet people that you connect with that much. I would say the exposure to performing in general, and getting to know my audience up close, and getting to thank them directly to their faces, I’m that’s in my top five. What else…I also got my dog in the past five years, so I’d put him in there as well. Is that five things? I don’t know, that was a long winded answer, but yeah.
I feel lucky that there’s not one particular thing that is eating me alive at night. I want to be as present as possible and really soak up all of the opportunities that I’ve been lucky enough to have, the experiences that I’ve been lucky enough to live through. Because things move so quick. It’s crazy that it’s been five years, and I know 25, that’s young in the grand scheme of things, but it’s it’s also the oldest I’ve ever been. And so I’m trying to evolve as much as I can, as frequently as possible, because I just feel very lucky that when I look back at my career, yes, there’s a lot I would like to do differently, but nothing that is eating me alive at night, because I think I feel really comfortable with the fact that, like as human beings, we’re constantly learning, we’re constantly changing, we’re constantly making mistakes, and that can be a really good thing.
All of Adrianne Lenker, like, all of the lyricism I find to be really compelling always, but specifically these days, because I feel like her softness is necessary in the world at the moment. I always lean on her music when I also want to feel more of that because I feel like there’s so much we’ve all been so hardened by the way things are. I would pick a song of hers called No Machine. That whole song is such a poem, but it’s really about depending on the people around you, I suppose. So there’s the end of the song that says, “don’t know where I’d go without you.” And I feel very much a deep appreciation for the people in my life right now, where, especially being on the road, it gets beautifully exhausting sometimes. And I think I feel really relieved and grateful that I get to lean on the people in my life that I get to lean on.
